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Last week Reuters reported that tests shipped around the country by the federal government were contaminated was lowered to a ridiculous level.

As Judge Hill said at that May 18th meeting, “If you have a subjective fever and you have a headache and you live in Collin County, you now meet the qualifications to be a probable COVID patient. It is remarkable how low the standard is now.”
Even worse, once a “probable” case was determined based on possibly unrelated subjective criteria, up to 15 people in possible contact with that “probable” case were also listed as “probable cases.” And “probable cases” were considered cases.
Repeat that farce across Texas and is it any wonder there was a “spike” in “cases”?


Also, Governor Abbott’s claim that hospitals were being over-run by Covid patients was refuted by the Houston hospital directors themselves, who said they were nowhere near actual capacity and in fact were about the same level as they were last year.
The basis for Abbott’s unconstitutional “executive order” has been shown to be false. Will he admit his mistake?
It is encouraging to see so many local and county officials across Texas announcing they will refuse to enforce Governor Abbott’s unconstitutional face mask order. Thankfully the spirit of freedom and love of liberty is still alive in Texas
The “second wave” is driven by propaganda. Across the country, Covid testing increased from about 150,000 to more than 700,000 per day. You can’t drive through Houston without seeing a flurry of signs advertising “Free Covid test! Results in 15 minutes!” Last week Reuters reported that tests shipped around the country by the federal government were contaminated.


Deaths from coronavirus – even the deaths “with” coronavirus rather than deaths “from” coronavirus – are down more than 90 percent since the peak in April. The decline in deaths continues. That means we are closer to the “herd immunity” that will finally kill this virus. Yet Governor Abbott and others across the country see this as a reason to lock the country back down.
 

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Last week got an emergency alert for Harris county (Houston) on my phone that the hospitals were nearing capacity and everyone should stay home. Couple days later got the same for Bexar. Was mainly just pissed off cause I knew the store shelves would be fucked again, which they were.

Of course nothing ever came of it. Just a ridiculous scare tactic. Next day the hospital administrators were calling it all bullshit.
 

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Great find SR! Outstanding!
 

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~2500 deaths out of 30MM people. and prob half those deaths are fake covid deaths.
 

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~2500 deaths out of 30MM people. and prob half those deaths are fake covid deaths.

fake. people in their 80s. people with one foot already in the grave. its an endless list of exaggerations.
 

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I'm more than happy to call out the Useful Idiots when they move the goalposts to what fits their fear mongering when one metric isn't working. My metric has never changed as I feel the most important stat has always been deaths.

With that said, deaths are indeed trending upward in Texas (sorry to say). Yes, I realize that the overall figure is not impressive as 2,655 is still a small percentage of the overall population of 29 million and we had significantly more deaths for the flu/pneumonia just 3 years ago (over 14k). Nonetheless, I'm not going to get caught up in the politics of this thing and ignore a trend that is developing. If I'm going to expect a balanced approach by the Useful Idiots, I would be a hypocrite to not be fair in my evaluation of the numbers. I mentioned this to Choptalk in his national thread, claiming most people should be more interested in their local area and that the national numbers are skewed by areas of high density (i.e New York) with a much smaller geographic area than Texas. The Texas numbers are simply trending upward. There's no other way to look at it. It clearly started with the protests (not even debatable) and has continued upward. And unfortunately, in addition to the BLM bullshit, there were also some protests this weekend over mask policies that did not help matters. I do hope this trend reverses.

Numbers effective from yesterday:

Last week 252 deaths
2 weeks ago 211 deaths
3 weeks ago 209 deaths
4 weeks ago 147 deaths
 

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I'm more than happy to call out the Useful Idiots when they move the goalposts to what fits their fear mongering when one metric isn't working. My metric has never changed as I feel the most important stat has always been deaths.

With that said, deaths are indeed trending upward in Texas (sorry to say). Yes, I realize that the overall figure is not impressive as 2,655 is still a small percentage of the overall population of 29 million and we had significantly more deaths for the flu/pneumonia just 3 years ago (over 14k). Nonetheless, I'm not going to get caught up in the politics of this thing and ignore a trend that is developing. If I'm going to expect a balanced approach by the Useful Idiots, I would be a hypocrite to not be fair in my evaluation of the numbers. I mentioned this to Choptalk in his national thread, claiming most people should be more interested in their local area and that the national numbers are skewed by areas of high density (i.e New York) with a much smaller geographic area than Texas. The Texas numbers are simply trending upward. There's no other way to look at it. It clearly started with the protests (not even debatable) and has continued upward. And unfortunately, in addition to the BLM bullshit, there were also some protests this weekend over mask policies that did not help matters. I do hope this trend reverses.

Numbers effective from yesterday:

Last week 252 deaths
2 weeks ago 211 deaths
3 weeks ago 209 deaths
4 weeks ago 147 deaths

Every death matters my friend, but I'm going to suggest that amount of deaths in a state the size of Texas is statistically irrelevant

Maybe a statistician can prove otherwise, IDK

More importantly, what demographics?
 

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Every death matters my friend, but I'm going to suggest that amount of deaths in a state the size of Texas is statistically irrelevant

Maybe a statistician can prove otherwise, IDK

More importantly, what demographics?

I understand Willie. As stated, the numbers are not impressive. However, there is no denying that the trend is indeed going up. If I make the same assumption that the demographics have not changed between the week where we were at 147 deaths versus last week, it's still significant in relation to the amount of deaths we were having. That's all I'm saying. I hope the trend does not continue. I doubt anyone here would say losing over 14,000 people in 2017 was considered a good year for the flu and pneumonia, regardless of the fact that one could claim it was statistically insignificant.
 

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I understand Willie. As stated, the numbers are not impressive. However, there is no denying that the trend is indeed going up. If I make the same assumption that the demographics have not changed between the week where we were at 147 deaths versus last week, it's still significant in relation to the amount of deaths we were having. That's all I'm saying. I hope the trend does not continue. I doubt anyone here would say losing over 14,000 people in 2017 was considered a good year for the flu and pneumonia, regardless of the fact that one could claim it was statistically insignificant.

I noticed how gentle you are forced to be in order to state something that is accurate but against the grain of the majority(or as they refer to it, the mob) in here, in order for them not to all attack you.

The irony.
 

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I noticed how gentle you are forced to be in order to state something that is accurate but against the grain of the majority(or as they refer to it, the mob) in here, in order for them not to all attack you.

The irony.

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Feel free to comment on the information I posted. I really don't care about any personal assessment.
 

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I'm more than happy to call out the Useful Idiots when they move the goalposts to what fits their fear mongering when one metric isn't working. My metric has never changed as I feel the most important stat has always been deaths.

With that said, deaths are indeed trending upward in Texas (sorry to say). Yes, I realize that the overall figure is not impressive as 2,655 is still a small percentage of the overall population of 29 million and we had significantly more deaths for the flu/pneumonia just 3 years ago (over 14k). Nonetheless, I'm not going to get caught up in the politics of this thing and ignore a trend that is developing. If I'm going to expect a balanced approach by the Useful Idiots, I would be a hypocrite to not be fair in my evaluation of the numbers. I mentioned this to Choptalk in his national thread, claiming most people should be more interested in their local area and that the national numbers are skewed by areas of high density (i.e New York) with a much smaller geographic area than Texas. The Texas numbers are simply trending upward. There's no other way to look at it. It clearly started with the protests (not even debatable) and has continued upward. And unfortunately, in addition to the BLM bullshit, there were also some protests this weekend over mask policies that did not help matters. I do hope this trend reverses.

Numbers effective from yesterday:

Last week 252 deaths
2 weeks ago 211 deaths
3 weeks ago 209 deaths
4 weeks ago 147 deaths

Interesting development. I wonder what the age range is for each week. Is it possible its still in the 80's? I wonder which cities these are from and if there is any type of concentration area. With that spike I wonder if something like you see below is the sole cause of this minor spike?

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There are a lot of legitimate reasons for the small spike. I do want to ask a question of you. Considering the rise of numbers (not even going to call it a spike now) is so small as to not even matter... wouldn't it be best to let each individual county make the call? Dallas is not Amarillo or any other tumbleweed city. You have San Antonio, Houston, Austin (as shown above with many hippie freaks). Why roll back a whole state?
 

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Interesting development. I wonder what the age range is for each week. Is it possible its still in the 80's? I wonder which cities these are from and if there is any type of concentration area. With that spike I wonder if something like you see below is the sole cause of this minor spike?

As statedin the post above

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There are a lot of legitimate reasons for the small spike. I do want to ask a question of you. Considering the rise of numbers (not even going to call it a spike now) is so small as to not even matter... wouldn't it be best to let each individual county make the call? Dallas is not Amarillo or any other tumbleweed city. You have San Antonio, Houston, Austin (as shown above with many hippie freaks). Why roll back a whole state?

Did you read my post in its entirety? If so, you noticed I stated "It clearly started with the protests". I am absolutely convinced of that. I've always thought high density areas should have different guidelines than more spread out areas (as a country, we had already been implementing that... no reason not to do that on a statewide basis also). We were in the top 10 in least amount of deaths per 1000 in the country. I'd love to stay there and hope this trend does not continue.
 

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Did you read my post in its entirety? If so, you noticed I stated "It clearly started with the protests". I am absolutely convinced of that. I've always thought high density areas should have different guidelines than more spread out areas (as a country, we had already been implementing that... no reason not to do that on a Statewide basis also). We were in the top 10 in least amount of deaths per 1000 in the country. I'd love to stay there and hope this trend does not continue.

well its a trend so small i wouldn't worry about it quite yet. It would still be nice to get a geographical look at this. Is Texas roll back a state wise mandate? If so its a big mistake.

and if it indeed points to protests then its another mistake to shut down bars and restaurants or penalize them in any way.
 

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well its a trend so small i wouldn't worry about it quite yet. It would still be nice to get a geographical look at this. Is Texas roll back a state wise mandate? If so its a big mistake.

and if it indeed points to protests then its another mistake to shut down bars and restaurants or penalize them in any way.

The number may be. The trend is not, so again, hoping it does not continue. I don't think you'll find an argument from most on the rest. The manner in which all these protests have taken place needs to stop. Most rational people understand bars played a much smaller role.
 

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The number may be. The trend is not, so again, hoping it does not continue. I don't think you'll find an argument from most on the rest. The manner on which all these protests have taken place needs to stop.

The problem is the over reaction. Lone Star park just up and shut down in the middle of a card. They are probably shut for good this summer. Why? 2 people tested positive. So you take the 2 people and quarantine and keep things going. Same for bars and restaurants taking the hit even if they followed all the rules and nobody at their place got the flu. Isolate the problem is the answer. Not lazy mandates from the state government.
 

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The trends are somewhat alarming, but I think overblown a bit by MSM.

With the significant spike in cases, many are expecting hospitalizations and deaths hold the same percentages that they did back in April. So far that trend has not materialized to a large extent, thankfully. If it did, we would be at 300K quickly. Deaths as a percentage of cases using cases from 2 weeks ago is down from 2% on average to 1.5% in Texas using a 4 week trendline. Data is similar in Florida (I don't track every state), but deaths as a percentage of cases were around 8% on average a month ago, and at about 2% currently. Again, using deaths today divided by cases 2 weeks ago.

Leads to the theory that - many people testing now are asymptomatic, and recover either in or out of the hospital. Hospitals probably getting better at treating this as they learn more about it. Virus could be weakening.

Raw deaths are up though in both Florida and Texas. Texas nearly double where they were in daily deaths from 4 weeks ago. You'd like to see this number go down as opposed to up of course. Hoping that we can see the trends reverse.
 
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Last week got an emergency alert for Harris county (Houston) on my phone that the hospitals were nearing capacity and everyone should stay home. Couple days later got the same for Bexar. Was mainly just pissed off cause I knew the store shelves would be fucked again, which they were.

Of course nothing ever came of it. Just a ridiculous scare tactic. Next day the hospital administrators were calling it all bullshit.


You have been awful quiet after all that talking about how Texas is fine and headed towards a 100% opening. Fool!
 

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